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as to the comment i made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since vietnam, was about not just the surge, but the overall war of choice going into iraq. >> well there you have it, joy, your thoughts? you're younger, you've been through it, you studied it in school, i lived through it, but it's the weirdest thing, it looks like a flashback. is it really about the surge? i'm still trying to figure out the anger here. >> these guys both served, as you said, chris, they were actually good friends, brothers in arms in the senate. john mccain seems to be a man who is tormented. he's tormented by these demons that have to do with the things that he was denied. he was denied the presidency. so he couldn't stand george w. bush. he was denied it again, so he couldn't stand barack obama and can't stand anyone that barack obama nominates. and the surge was something that was his. i think that almost in a way john mccain made the surge into the war as john mccain would have fought it as commander-in-chief. and anyone who questions it gets the wrath of mccain. and i watched that hearing
as to the comment i made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since vietnam, was about not just the surge, but the overall war of choice going into iraq. >> well there you have it, joy, your thoughts? you're younger, you've been through it, you studied it in school, i lived through it, but it's the weirdest thing, it looks like a flashback. is it really about the surge? i'm still trying to figure out the anger here. >> these guys both served, as you said, chris, they...
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foreign policy success of the first term. >> your campaign was a bitter campaign. i'll spare reading you what you said. how long did it take to get over that? >> oh! what question will pely ask the president and what questions should he ask the president? mr. president what is your favorite salty snack or 7.9% unemployment and record number of people on food stamps. how will you fix that, sir? mr. president, baltimore or san francisco? or gasoline prices from baltimore to san francisco are ripping a whole through my wallet? what are you going to do sir? bring it around the table. bob? kidding. kimberly? >> kimberly: we should ask about obamacare and why he is going to penalize say a family of four making $96,000 and charge them $20,000 for obamacare. if you see the i.r.s. regulations, they are crippling. especially on the middle class and families trying to make ends meet. i think they are penalty when you look at it. >> andrea: ask him if he agrees with secretary of state, or former now, clinton's assessment we are in a global war against radical islamic jihadist.
foreign policy success of the first term. >> your campaign was a bitter campaign. i'll spare reading you what you said. how long did it take to get over that? >> oh! what question will pely ask the president and what questions should he ask the president? mr. president what is your favorite salty snack or 7.9% unemployment and record number of people on food stamps. how will you fix that, sir? mr. president, baltimore or san francisco? or gasoline prices from baltimore to san...
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if you're worried about the lack of science educators, eager foreign-born people coming here to work there, it is the most obvious and clean solution. paul ryan makes a point of pointing out the growth advantages of immigration. >> our goal is to advance policies that make a difference in people's lives. that means we want to advance pro-growth reforms good for the economy. there are immigration things that are good for the economy. >> immigration was the first policy he talked about when he talked about pro-growth reforms. some workers, who are typically recovering, the best way to help them is with better training, better generous income tax credit, that is easier to provide in a growing economy with younger workers than in a sluggish one with budget deficits. immigration is not what hurts them, and it is not standing in the way of aiding them. in 2007, the congressional budget office found that legalizing undocumented immigrants would increase revenue by $48 billion, while costing only $3 billion increased public services. and that is before you get into the broader economic benef
if you're worried about the lack of science educators, eager foreign-born people coming here to work there, it is the most obvious and clean solution. paul ryan makes a point of pointing out the growth advantages of immigration. >> our goal is to advance policies that make a difference in people's lives. that means we want to advance pro-growth reforms good for the economy. there are immigration things that are good for the economy. >> immigration was the first policy he talked...
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first, about a tenth of the population is foreign-born, but more than a quarter of business started had a foreign-born owner. in silicon valley, half of all tech starts had a foreign-born owner. right now, about half of the doctors working in science and technology in america are foreign-born. immigrants are 30% more likely to get new businesses and three times more likely to file patents than their counterparts, on average, they tend to lift the american wages. the case is made by way of analogy. everybody gets, aging economies with low birth rates are in trouble. immigration is essential the importing of new workers, like raising the birth rate. but easier, because the newcomers are able to work immediately. you don't have to teach them to walk or eat with a fork. and in the u.s., they have an unusually amount to gain from the immigration, because when it comes to the global draft, we almost always get the first round picks. we do if we want them, and we make it easier for them to come here. if you're worried about the deficit, more healthy workers paying into medicare and social secu
first, about a tenth of the population is foreign-born, but more than a quarter of business started had a foreign-born owner. in silicon valley, half of all tech starts had a foreign-born owner. right now, about half of the doctors working in science and technology in america are foreign-born. immigrants are 30% more likely to get new businesses and three times more likely to file patents than their counterparts, on average, they tend to lift the american wages. the case is made by way of...
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as to the comment i made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since vietnam was about not just the surge but the overall war of choice going into iraq. >> well, there you have it. joy, your thoughts. you're younger. i lived through it. it looks like a flashback. mccain is so angry. is it really about the surge? what is it? did they yell at each other in the cloakroom? >> they both served, as you said. they were actually good friends. they were brothers in arms in the senate. you know, john mccain seems to be a man who is tormented. he's tormented by these demons that have to do with the things he was denied. he was denied the presidency, so he couldn't stand george w. bush. he was denied it again so he couldn't stand barack obama and can't stand anyone that barack obama nominates. and the surge was something that was his. i think that almost in a way john mccain made the surge into the war as john mccain would have fought it as commander-in-chief, and anyone who questions it gets the wrath of mccain. and i watched that hearing or that part of the hearing with colonel jack
as to the comment i made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since vietnam was about not just the surge but the overall war of choice going into iraq. >> well, there you have it. joy, your thoughts. you're younger. i lived through it. it looks like a flashback. mccain is so angry. is it really about the surge? what is it? did they yell at each other in the cloakroom? >> they both served, as you said. they were actually good friends. they were brothers in arms in the...
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as to the comment i made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since vietnam was about not just the surge but the overall war of choice going into iraq. >> i think history has already made a judgment about the surge, sir, and you're on the wrong side of it. >> senator shaheen, i don't know what to make of that. it looked like badgering the witness. i mean, it was mccain with some vendetta against this guy. it looked personal. and i don't know what it had to do with his qualifications, his abilities, to simply pound away trying to get him to agree with john mccain on something mccain believes in. >> well, this was the longest hearing for a nominee that i have ever attended in my years here. i thought senator hagel answered as forthrightly as he could all the tough questions that were in front of him. i would hope we could all be respectful and be willing to give the witness an opportunity to answer when there are serious questions. i was pleased to hear senator hagel. i didn't ask him about the surge in iraq. i wasn't there for that interchange, but i was pleased to have him
as to the comment i made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since vietnam was about not just the surge but the overall war of choice going into iraq. >> i think history has already made a judgment about the surge, sir, and you're on the wrong side of it. >> senator shaheen, i don't know what to make of that. it looked like badgering the witness. i mean, it was mccain with some vendetta against this guy. it looked personal. and i don't know what it had to do with his...
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was he going to get in a bunch of foreign policy issues or find out what people wanted to know about. i think people want to know more about this than syria. >> eric: i wasn't suggesting syria was the question. maybe benghazi but softballs. >> greg: steve croft summed up why "60 minutes" is 59 minutes too long. we have seen harder hitting journallism on back of cream boxes. the only way the lovefest could have been fakeer is if they went skeet shooker. >> eric: more fake. >> greg: faker? thank you. >> dana: "60 minutes" is known to point out hypocrisy and inconsistency. there is plenty to choose from, from the testimony on benghazi alone. i think if they called me up and said we want you to do an interview with president and mrs. clinton, offer it to you exclusively and give you 30 minutes. i can't do my job in 30 minutes. i'll take a pass. why didn't they do that? >> eric: last word. >> bob: i suppose they could have done that. i believe people want to know. the first time you see them together. questions. they ran against each other in heat of the battle and became two of the most o
was he going to get in a bunch of foreign policy issues or find out what people wanted to know about. i think people want to know more about this than syria. >> eric: i wasn't suggesting syria was the question. maybe benghazi but softballs. >> greg: steve croft summed up why "60 minutes" is 59 minutes too long. we have seen harder hitting journallism on back of cream boxes. the only way the lovefest could have been fakeer is if they went skeet shooker. >> eric: more...
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and where they disagree with his foreign policy. that is probably the better play. one of the interesting things here is the point that a lot of folks believe the president gets his nominee but that there were a number of instances where his qualifications, senator hagel's qualifications came into play and it was a very big problem that you have someone who is not even qualified enough to have important and distinct opinions on very big national security policies so that is something that folks up open capitol hill, again, they will use that as a vehicle and that is a smart political play to litigate the differences they have with the administration. >>chris: we have to take a break but when we come back serious movement on immigration reform. will congress pass anything? our! oh my goodness... oh my gosh, this looks amazing... [ male announcer ] 15 entrees under $15! it's o new maine stays! seafood, chicken, and more! h! the tilapia with roast vegables. i'actually looking at the od grilled chicken with portobello wine sauce. that p
and where they disagree with his foreign policy. that is probably the better play. one of the interesting things here is the point that a lot of folks believe the president gets his nominee but that there were a number of instances where his qualifications, senator hagel's qualifications came into play and it was a very big problem that you have someone who is not even qualified enough to have important and distinct opinions on very big national security policies so that is something that folks...
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. >> when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blonder i blunds country since vietnam were you correct or incorrect, yes, or no? >> my reference to the surge being dangerous -- >> the question is were you right or wrong. that is a pretty straightforward question. i would leak the answer whether you are right or wrong and then you are free to elaborate. >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or no. >> why do you think that the iranian foreign ministry is strongly supports your nomination to be secretary of defense? >> i have a difficult enough time with american politics and senator i have no idea. >> do you think it is appropriate for the chief civilian leader of the u.s. military forces to agree with the statement that both the perception, quote and the reality is that the united states is, jet the world's bully. >> the didn't hear her say that by the way the united states. and i think my comment was it is irdevelop rant in good observation -- irdevelop rant and good observation. i don't think i said that i agree with it. >> as of this afternoon 12 sen
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committee sends its republican members to world net daily to go talk about foreign policy ideas, this is their world. this is not the fringe. this is where they live. governing the united states is a really hard job. representing the united states in the world is a really, really hard job. today john kerry was officially sworn in to take over that job from hillary clinton. and he got to what amounts from a really well informed warning from his predecessor about the difficulties of that job. the evidence-based world is a hard enough place to live and to operate for us as a nation without half of our domestic politics being dominated by the perceived desire to defend against the muslim obama jihad on ronald reagan's childhood home. are we hampered as a nation in our ability to address real problems in the evidence-based world if half of the people in politics do not live in that world? and if so, how does that get fixed? joining us now is chris hayes, who all of you will see again at 8:00 a.m. eastern tomorrow, because that's when he starts his show "up with chris hayes" here on msnbc.
committee sends its republican members to world net daily to go talk about foreign policy ideas, this is their world. this is not the fringe. this is where they live. governing the united states is a really hard job. representing the united states in the world is a really, really hard job. today john kerry was officially sworn in to take over that job from hillary clinton. and he got to what amounts from a really well informed warning from his predecessor about the difficulties of that job. the...
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my view of the military and foreign policy is exactly that of reagan's, that it should be driven by the national security interests of the united states, that we should go in with clear, defined objectives, overwhelming force, and then when we're done, get the heck out. >> does anyone believe paul ryan would have taken us into a hawkish war like iraq? by the way, john kerry and chuck hagel aren't fans of the u.s. military? oh? someone remind the president or remind the senator from texas that both hagel and kerry volunteered to serve in vietnam and have been awarded five purple hearts between them. senator cruz has no experience personally in the u.s. military and, as i said earlier, was one of the three senators who voted against confirming john kerry earlier today. >>> also, hillary clinton reunited with australian comedy duo hamish and andy. she first met them back in 2010 during a visit to australia and today they popped up at what's being called a global town interview or town-terview with the secretary of state. >> madam secretary, obviously a lot of good questions we had were tak
my view of the military and foreign policy is exactly that of reagan's, that it should be driven by the national security interests of the united states, that we should go in with clear, defined objectives, overwhelming force, and then when we're done, get the heck out. >> does anyone believe paul ryan would have taken us into a hawkish war like iraq? by the way, john kerry and chuck hagel aren't fans of the u.s. military? oh? someone remind the president or remind the senator from texas...
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. >> were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy plunder in th ee vietnam. correct or incorrect. the question is were you right or wrong? i would like an answer if you were right or wrong, and then you are free to elaborate? >> well, i'm not going to give you a -- a yes or no answer. >> name one person in your opinion who is intimidated by the israeli lobby in the united states senate? >> well, first -- >> name one. >> i don't know. >> well, why would you say it? >> i didn't have in mind a specific person. >> hmm. so, steve, how much was this politics and how much was this genuine, you know, policy concern? >> well, i think it was politics and policy and third, and i think it was personal. john mccain was the author of the surge of troops to iraq at the end of the administration, pushed it hard, took a lot of heat, including from the right. he takes it personal when chuck hagel calls it the bigst debacle since vietnam. and senator hagel dodging the question on whether he agreed with the same statement. hag mccain was getting testy a
. >> were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy plunder in th ee vietnam. correct or incorrect. the question is were you right or wrong? i would like an answer if you were right or wrong, and then you are free to elaborate? >> well, i'm not going to give you a -- a yes or no answer. >> name one person in your opinion who is intimidated by the israeli lobby in the united states senate? >> well, first -- >>...
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willwere you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect? yes or no? >> my reference to -- >> are you going to answer the question senator hagel? the question is were you right or wrong? that's a pretty straight forward question. >> well -- >> i would like to hear whether you're right or wrong and then you're free to elaborate. >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or no answer. >> well, let the record show that you refused to answer that question. >> gregg: of course, john mccain was the champion of the surge. what are hagel's chances of winning confirmation? let's bring in the washington time's columnist charlie hurt. it's the good old boys club in the u.s. senate. he's going to get confirmed, right? >> yeah. i think that that hearing will go down as one of the worst in television history. i mean, he was unprepared. he didn't know what he was talking about. he state wrong policy at times and then when he did assert things he asitterred things that were pretty scary su
willwere you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect? yes or no? >> my reference to -- >> are you going to answer the question senator hagel? the question is were you right or wrong? that's a pretty straight forward question. >> well -- >> i would like to hear whether you're right or wrong and then you're free to elaborate. >> well, i'm not...
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but their economic policies have been very receptive to foreign in vetment. a very free market government even though it is islamist in its social policy. kind of a mixed situation. i think the turmoil in syria, the risk, the threat of iran all make a very complex situation with historical i think that is tensions one of the reasons in the absence of a clear and firm american policy why there is -- there is so much turmoil and so much risk. >> greta: is turkey sort of our proxy in terms of helping the rebels in syria? >> well, i think because there are so many refugees inside turkey who need humanitarian assistance that those refugee camps also provide r and r bases for the opposition in syria and as just as a logistical matter i think the turks don't want the assad regime to continue but they are worried that the opposition does contain substantial terrorist elements including al-qaeda. one of these things where it is like chinese checkers. there are five or six players in the region and none of them form convenient alliances with one another. this is not a
but their economic policies have been very receptive to foreign in vetment. a very free market government even though it is islamist in its social policy. kind of a mixed situation. i think the turmoil in syria, the risk, the threat of iran all make a very complex situation with historical i think that is tensions one of the reasons in the absence of a clear and firm american policy why there is -- there is so much turmoil and so much risk. >> greta: is turkey sort of our proxy in terms...
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were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam. correct or incorrect? yes-or-no answer. >> my reference to --. >> are can you answer the question? the question is, were you right or wrong? that is a straightforward question. i would like to have an answer. >> i am not going do give you a yes-or-no answer. >> he refused to answer the question for the record. >>gregg: john mccain may have missed his calling, he should have been a lawyer. so, how many republicans will vote for their former colleague. we have john leboutillier, former republican congressman, for new york. pat caddell, former pollster for president carter and doug schoen former pollster for bill clinton i googled worst confirmation hearing ever and up popped chuck hagel. i thought it would be john tower or bork. hagel got the worse. >> here is what happened. bottom line, chug hagel demonstrated why i believe he is not qualified to be secretary of defense but, yet, there are a couple of republicans who will vote for him and i predic
were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam. correct or incorrect? yes-or-no answer. >> my reference to --. >> are can you answer the question? the question is, were you right or wrong? that is a straightforward question. i would like to have an answer. >> i am not going do give you a yes-or-no answer. >> he refused to answer the question for the record. >>gregg: john...
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for the comment i made about the dangers foreign policy decisions since vietnam, it was not just the surge, but the overall war of choice owing into iraq. -- going into iraq. that particular decision made on the surge, but waas -- of the war was a bad dangerous decision since vietnam. aside from the costs that occurred in this country, aside from what that date to take our focus off of afghanistan, which was the original and real threat to this country, iraq was not. i always try to frame all of the different issues for i make a decision on anything. we could have differences in opinions. that is essentially why i took the position -- >> it is a fundamental difference of opinion, senator hagel. when there are 59 votes and that senate that spend our time trying to prevent that 60th, thank gofd for senator lieberma. your refusal to answer whether you are right or wrong about it will have an impact on my judgment as to whether to vote for your confirmation or not. i hope you'll reconsider the fact that you refuse to answer a fundamental question about an issue that took the lives of tho
for the comment i made about the dangers foreign policy decisions since vietnam, it was not just the surge, but the overall war of choice owing into iraq. -- going into iraq. that particular decision made on the surge, but waas -- of the war was a bad dangerous decision since vietnam. aside from the costs that occurred in this country, aside from what that date to take our focus off of afghanistan, which was the original and real threat to this country, iraq was not. i always try to frame all...
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. >> were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect? yes or no. >> my reference to the surge being the most dangerous -- >> senator hagel, the question is were you right or wrong? that's a pretty straightforward question. i would like the answer whether you are right or wrong and then you are free to elaborate. >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or no. >> so it feels like the senator is still fighting the iraq war there. who do you think, alice, looks worse in the exchange between the two men? >> well, clearly hagel. he couldn't put up a good defense for his position in that particular area. this is one area where he just clearly didn't understand what his record was. he first was for the iraq war and then he was opposed to the iraq surge, saying it was a terrible blunder on the part of the u.s. when in fact it worked. he also had trouble answering questions about where he stands with israel. he has failed repeatedly in the past senator to show solidarity with o
. >> were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect? yes or no. >> my reference to the surge being the most dangerous -- >> senator hagel, the question is were you right or wrong? that's a pretty straightforward question. i would like the answer whether you are right or wrong and then you are free to elaborate. >> well, i'm not going to give you a...
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. >> were you correct or incorrect when you said the search would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? correct or incorrect? yes or no? are you going tonswer the queson, nator hage the question is, were you right or wrong? i would like to answer whether you were right or wrong. and you are fe to elaborate. >> i am not going to give you a yes or no answer -- >> let the record show that you refuse to answer the question. >> he finally gave the answer he wanted to give. >> i saw the suffering and consequences of a war. i did second think the srch. would this bwortthe crife? we lost almost 1200 dead americans during that period was it required, necessary? >> how much of that exchange was political, how much was personal, and how much was related to our defense policy, mark? >> 92, 11, 13. [laughter] a lot of it was personal. one could not watch those hearings without feeling that there were a lot of personal grudges, even vendett, being settled. >> entered john cornyn of texas says it cannot support the nominee for defense secretary, says we need to b
. >> were you correct or incorrect when you said the search would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? correct or incorrect? yes or no? are you going tonswer the queson, nator hage the question is, were you right or wrong? i would like to answer whether you were right or wrong. and you are fe to elaborate. >> i am not going to give you a yes or no answer -- >> let the record show that you refuse to answer the question. >> he finally...
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. >> it is the same we talked about on the segment on foreign policy, no voice speaks to the mainstream of america on the two issues. if the republicans seized simpson-bowles and sold it, that would be very popular. >> paul ryan sat on the simpson-bowles commission and voted in favor of it. >> washington doesn't care about the economy. they are rich. they are rolling in money. the president even mentioned at the inaugural they would talk about immigration, which is a longer term issue, guns. we are not dealing with the fundamental problem of an economy with millions of people who cannot get jobs. the problem is jobs and the economy. neither side is talking about how to revitalize the economy, create jobs, promote economic growth. there is no comprehensive fiscal plan, tax plan, or budget. bottom line, it is a broken system. >> all interested in partisan division, debate, and what little advantage i can get today, led by a president who ought to go see "lincoln" and figure what it is about. >> i am sensing a little frustration. >> there is. the system only works. the players and system a
. >> it is the same we talked about on the segment on foreign policy, no voice speaks to the mainstream of america on the two issues. if the republicans seized simpson-bowles and sold it, that would be very popular. >> paul ryan sat on the simpson-bowles commission and voted in favor of it. >> washington doesn't care about the economy. they are rich. they are rolling in money. the president even mentioned at the inaugural they would talk about immigration, which is a longer...
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policy and didn't hang out and support his friend and republican colleague john mccain. was there something personal there? >> there is always something personal in relationships between senators and chuck hagel is a former senator. i can't speculate on motives of each of the senators. they are probably different motives, an array of intent and purpose. i think there will be a vote this week in the committee, if not this week, next week, but soon. i believe there will be republican votes for senator hagel and if not in committee, at least on the floor. i believe he will be approved. i think the personal issues, hopefully, will be put behind us. most importantly, it will be a bipartisan vote. whatever the motives on a personal level, i hope partisanship is not part of this process as the american people watching that hearing may have concluded it was because the weight of the republican questioning, the prosecuting or crass examination aspect was so much on the republican side. >> do you agree with the old tradition that president's should be able to pick their own cabine
policy and didn't hang out and support his friend and republican colleague john mccain. was there something personal there? >> there is always something personal in relationships between senators and chuck hagel is a former senator. i can't speculate on motives of each of the senators. they are probably different motives, an array of intent and purpose. i think there will be a vote this week in the committee, if not this week, next week, but soon. i believe there will be republican votes...
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with a little change expected in washington's foreign policy some u.s. secrets are likely to remain hidden overseas later on we analyze the investigation into cia prisons all and dragging on for five years and has had little assistance from america we try to shed some light on the issue about an. ongoing turmoil on the streets of egypt threatens to push the country towards collapse the stark warning came from the fans minister as violent protests show no sign of relenting at a government demonstrators continue to defy president morsi is curfew clashing with police and troops in cities along the suez canal for tasker's also seem undeterred by new law granting the military power to arrest thousands have been forcefully calling for an end to the rule of the islamist leader mohamed morsi and the muslim brotherhood for a week now blaming them for hijacking and betraying the revolution however ahmed mccabe co-founder of the council of trustees of the revolution in egypt says and the chaos the military's role should not be underestimated. the surface interpreta
with a little change expected in washington's foreign policy some u.s. secrets are likely to remain hidden overseas later on we analyze the investigation into cia prisons all and dragging on for five years and has had little assistance from america we try to shed some light on the issue about an. ongoing turmoil on the streets of egypt threatens to push the country towards collapse the stark warning came from the fans minister as violent protests show no sign of relenting at a government...
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as to the comment i made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since vietnam was about not just the surge but the overall war of choice going into iraq. that particular decision that was made on the surge, but more to the point our war in iraq, i think was the most fundamentally bad, dangerous decision since vietnam. aside from the costs that o occurred in this country to blood and treasure, aside what that did to take our focus off of afghanistan, which, in fact, was the original and real focus of the national threat to this country, iraq was not, i always try to frame all the different issues before i made a decision on anything. now just as you said, senator, we can have differences of opinion, but that's essentially why i took the position i did. >> it's a fundamental difference of opinion, senator hagel, and senator graham and i and senator lieberman when there were 59 votes in the united states senate spent our time trying to prevent that 60th. thank god for senator lieberman. i think history has already made a judgment about the surge, sir, and you're on the wrong si
as to the comment i made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since vietnam was about not just the surge but the overall war of choice going into iraq. that particular decision that was made on the surge, but more to the point our war in iraq, i think was the most fundamentally bad, dangerous decision since vietnam. aside from the costs that o occurred in this country to blood and treasure, aside what that did to take our focus off of afghanistan, which, in fact, was the original...
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i think that, you know, for 20 years foreign policy wasn't a major issue in the democratic party. whether it was globalization or opposition to the iraq war. we didn't real solid a forward leaning fiewrd policy. i think we have reestablished our commitment to free trade. democracy promotion. >> laura: how is it forward-leaning given what we didn't do in iran when we had -- looked like we had a real popular vote going there we really didn't do anything. in syria, there is debate what we should do there, nevertheless, clearly our policy there is a little bit confusing. >> clearly very forward leaning in the war on terror. clearly significantly involved in libya and egypt and trying to push things forward there. >> laura: even a lot of liberals were criticizing her. even people who like her. >> the second legacy for her is going to be about the asia. you raised. >> is america stronger or weaker than she was four years ago. >> i think america is stronger today. >> laura: on what measure? more people are looking to our country for leadership than they were four years ago. >> fewer peop
i think that, you know, for 20 years foreign policy wasn't a major issue in the democratic party. whether it was globalization or opposition to the iraq war. we didn't real solid a forward leaning fiewrd policy. i think we have reestablished our commitment to free trade. democracy promotion. >> laura: how is it forward-leaning given what we didn't do in iran when we had -- looked like we had a real popular vote going there we really didn't do anything. in syria, there is debate what we...
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. >> were you correct or not to say that the surge would be the month dangerous foreign policy blunder since vietnam? correct or incorrect? yes or no? are you going to answer the question? the question is, where you're right or wrong? that is a pretty straightforward question. i would like for you to answer whether you were right or wrong, and then you are free to elaborate. >> i am not going to give you a yes or no answer -- >> hagel finally gave the answer on the surge that he wanted to give. >> i saw the consequences and suffering and horror of war, so i did question a surge. will this be worth the sacrifice? we lost almost 1200 american during that period was it required, necessary? >> how much of that exchange was political, how much was personal, and how much was related to the defense policy? >> 92, 11, 13. a lot of it was personal. one could not watch those hearings without feeling there were a lot of personal grudges but, even vendettas, being settled. >> center cornyn of texas says he cannot support a nominee for defense secretary who thinks we should be tougher on israel and
. >> were you correct or not to say that the surge would be the month dangerous foreign policy blunder since vietnam? correct or incorrect? yes or no? are you going to answer the question? the question is, where you're right or wrong? that is a pretty straightforward question. i would like for you to answer whether you were right or wrong, and then you are free to elaborate. >> i am not going to give you a yes or no answer -- >> hagel finally gave the answer on the surge that...